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darren gersh, nbr, washington. >> susie: investors will beor mn those fiscal cliff talks, and they will also be studying tomorrow's importa")jé:0@6cj& but josh feinman says the november numbers won't give an accurate picture of the labor market. he's chief economist at d.b. advisors. >> reporter: hi, josh, so you're talking about distortions in that report. tell us more. >> yes, hi, susie. i think that the hurricane sandy may distort the numbers. we've seen it in some of the other high frequency data in the last couple of weeks. keep in mind tomorrow's labor market report will report on a snapshot of the labor market taken in the middle of last month. and that's when the hurricane and its aftermath were having their effects. >> so the consensus numbers from a survey of economists, they're expecting american businesses added 110,000 jobs it to their payroll. the unemployment rate staying around 7.9%. does that sit right with you. is that what you are seeing? >> probably somewhere around that maybe a little less. one of the problems is it is hard to gauge exactly what the impact of the s
darren gersh, nbr, washington. >> susie: investors will beor mn those fiscal cliff talks, and they will also be studying tomorrow's importa")jé:0@6cj& but josh feinman says the november numbers won't give an accurate picture of the labor market. he's chief economist at d.b. advisors. >> reporter: hi, josh, so you're talking about distortions in that report. tell us more. >> yes, hi, susie. i think that the hurricane sandy may distort the numbers. we've seen it in...
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." >> susie: the fiscal cliff talks are going nowhere. that's the word from john boehner today. the house speaker characterized the negotiations to avoid huge tax increases and spending cuts at a stalemate. the race to solve the fiscal cliff triggered another round of dramatic sound bites from republicans and president obama. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: the president is still pushing to wrap up a deal on the fiscal cliff before christmas and just in case anyone missed that point, he visited a toy factory to urge congress to avoid raising taxes on the middle class. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. a typical middle-class family of four would see their income taxes go up by about $2,200. >> reporter: t psidents oposg to raise taxesy $1.6 trillion, while cutting spending by $400 billion. on top of that, mr. obama asked for $50 billion more for infrastructure spending and $140 billion to extend unemployment insurance benefits and the payroll tax cut. republicans literally laughed it off. >> they want... they want
." >> susie: the fiscal cliff talks are going nowhere. that's the word from john boehner today. the house speaker characterized the negotiations to avoid huge tax increases and spending cuts at a stalemate. the race to solve the fiscal cliff triggered another round of dramatic sound bites from republicans and president obama. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: the president is still pushing to wrap up a deal on the fiscal cliff before christmas and just in case anyone...
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so it will be good for consumers. >> tom: we've been talking about the fiscal cliff but i think there is the holiday cliff which is that game of chicken between stores are they going have to discount closer to the holidays or are consumers going to spend the money that the stores are asking for right now. clearly another indication that stores perhaps maybe getting nervous now. sp s >> susie: speak of green there was green on wall street today. >> tom: some buying on wall street. let's look at our market focus. better than expected data on first-time unemployment claims led to a choppy start for the s&p 500. after apple went positive in the trne hour, sote did the index. as tech stocks turned solidly higher, so did the market, finishing up a third of a percent. trading volume was moderate at 616 million shares on the big board; just over 1.7 billion on the nasdaq. the technology sector led the way, up eight tenths of a percent. the consumer discretionary sector added six tenths of a percent. the big tech names in the dow industrials weren't left out. t intel had the biggest percentage
so it will be good for consumers. >> tom: we've been talking about the fiscal cliff but i think there is the holiday cliff which is that game of chicken between stores are they going have to discount closer to the holidays or are consumers going to spend the money that the stores are asking for right now. clearly another indication that stores perhaps maybe getting nervous now. sp s >> susie: speak of green there was green on wall street today. >> tom: some buying on wall...
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the path away from the fiscal cliff is neither straight nor smooth. talks hit a snag today as both republicans and democrats traded verbal fire over who goes first. republicans said they'd offered up new tax revenues, but have heard nothing from democrats about spending cuts. democrats said republicans were dragging their feet. we begin with darren gersh reporting even a visit by treasury secretary timothy geithner did little to change the mood on capitol hill. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner emerged from his sit- down with the president's negotiating team to declare he was disappointed. two weeks after the election, the speaker said democrats have yet to show what he called "adult leadership." >> right now, all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap, it needs leadership. it's time for the president and congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they are really willing to make. >> reporter: that's not how the white house sees it. the administration called the republican position that tax
the path away from the fiscal cliff is neither straight nor smooth. talks hit a snag today as both republicans and democrats traded verbal fire over who goes first. republicans said they'd offered up new tax revenues, but have heard nothing from democrats about spending cuts. democrats said republicans were dragging their feet. we begin with darren gersh reporting even a visit by treasury secretary timothy geithner did little to change the mood on capitol hill. >> reporter: house speaker...
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at honeywell talk about the lack of real hiring plans, partly because of the fiscal cliff. does that concern you as a stock investor? >> it does. i mean, i think the one thing about being a stock investor, you sort of have to buy with uncertainty and sell on certainty. so it is an opportunity, but i'm not sure it is one that has fully unfolded yet. >> tom: so are you hearing what you want to hear regarding the fiscal cliff? >> no. because i shouldn't be hearing anything. i think when the real negotiations occur, when they really hammer it out, p won't be public. you can't really discuss this sort of thing in public. because if they are going to resolve it, promises will have to be fudged, at best, and that's not something you do right away. you sort of have to go through a process and this is the early stage of that process. >> tom: early stage, and yet five weeks left before we go over that fiscal cliff. and how can investors keep their eye on their investments when there is so much uncertainty. >> it is not even five weeks. i think investors tr to focus on the fundamental
at honeywell talk about the lack of real hiring plans, partly because of the fiscal cliff. does that concern you as a stock investor? >> it does. i mean, i think the one thing about being a stock investor, you sort of have to buy with uncertainty and sell on certainty. so it is an opportunity, but i'm not sure it is one that has fully unfolded yet. >> tom: so are you hearing what you want to hear regarding the fiscal cliff? >> no. because i shouldn't be hearing anything. i...
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more tough talk today from washington on the fiscal cliff: treasury secretary timothy geithner said he's willing to go over it if republicans don't agree to tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. president obama said basically the same thing but added one more hard line to the negotiations. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to a debt ceiling vote and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation-- which, by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year-- i will not play that game. >> late todathe president spoke by telephone with house speaker john boehner. no specifics on what they said to each other, but it was their first conversation in a week. eventually the two sides will get down to bargaining over specifics, including entitlements. one idea may be to change the way the government measures inflation. that may sound like a small change, but, as darren gersh reports, it could have a big impact. >> reporter: if the price of oranges goes up, consumers will buy apples and other cheaper foods.
more tough talk today from washington on the fiscal cliff: treasury secretary timothy geithner said he's willing to go over it if republicans don't agree to tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. president obama said basically the same thing but added one more hard line to the negotiations. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to a debt ceiling vote and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation-- which, by the way, we...